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PostSubject: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:04 pm

I bought another starlet awhile back as a daily it is 95 but has been swaped from a 1.3 fuel injection 2e to a 1 litre carb I dont know why you would bother but any way it has been declared as a 1 litre I got a text from the nct centre about an opening last tuesday which I thought was odd usually I have to ring and hope to get a booking but the car went in anyway and failed on a bit of water in the nearside taillight and it was idling a bit high so I sorted the water and tuned her down a small bit went in for a retest today and it failed again on the emmisions I couldnt figure why its a 1 litre so it should be excempt I said to the fella testing it he told me because it is a 95 he has to test it as a 1.3 I told him its on the logbook as a 1 litre why are you testing it as a 1.3 he said they do not go by the engine but by the chassis number so basically it doesnt seem to matter what engine is in your car as long as the chassis number matches the logbook complete money racket Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:25 pm

I would look for a air leak first
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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:26 pm

Sure it still has to be emissions tested if it's newer than 93 does it not.

Irrelevant what engine is in the car

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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:56 pm

Yeah lad they test the car based on the chassis number not the engine but they could have told me that the first time around instead of saying its only idling high now I have to buy a cat cause the car came with just a silencer and backbox but I just thought of of it awhile ago that I have a project 1 litre starlet that im converting to1.5 and declaring it would they still test the car as a1 litre as thats what the chassis number says?
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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:58 pm

Pre 93 is tested on idle. 93+ has stricter emissions and are revved to just under 3k and also tested at idle. Engine makes no difference. A 2e is better than the 1e anyway, abit more poke

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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:05 pm

Yeah the 2e is better I bought it already converted as acheap run around but would they test my 91 starlet with a 5efe as a 1 litre?
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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:09 pm

Sheehy StarletGT wrote:
Pre 93 is tested on idle. 93+ has stricter emissions and are revved to just under 3k and also tested at idle. Engine makes no difference. A 2e is better than the 1e anyway, abit more poke

I think his is the other way around, someone took out a 2e-e and replaced it with a 1e.

Either way it makes no odds, the car is a 95 so it has to pass low idle and high idle and you sent it in with no cat so I don't fully see how this is the NCT's fault.

It has to be 93 or older to get high idle exemption and even then it still has to pass low idle and you were nowhere near the threshold for that.
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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:19 pm

Would it not fail with no cat regardless?
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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:24 pm

Emission testing depends on year of registration.
Engine size doesn't matter.
5L merc or 1L micra have to fit with in d same approved limit.

Carburated engines have serious problem to fit with in limit.
Ur up for bit of trouble lad.

Better swap her to 1.5 efi with cat asap.

Ur 1L isn't exemption.
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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:29 pm

I understand what you mean andyseadog so would my 5e starlet be exempt from high idle test as its a 91?
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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:31 pm

No. All tests applicable to 95 registration apply to Ur car.
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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:35 pm

Your other starlet would be if it's pre 93
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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:36 pm

Im talking about my project starlet now bimotoman it was a 1 litre 1991 from factory it is now a 1.5 5e would it still be exempt from high idle because its pre 93
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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:42 pm

not except from emissions but more lenient

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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:25 pm

It's pre 94 not 93
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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:29 pm

Matt_ep80 wrote:
Im talking about my project starlet now bimotoman it was a 1 litre 1991 from factory it is now a 1.5 5e would it still be exempt from high idle because its pre 93

95 registered car like Ur 1.3 starlet from first post ,swaped to 1e is applicable to euro4 emission standart.

Ur 91 1e swaped to 1.5 5efe will b tested as for levels applicable for pre 92 registered cars regardless engine
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To answer Ur first post,
Ur wrong, car got tested on in correct way.
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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:52 pm

Fairly sure it's 93 Shane? Have u had a 94 tested on only low idle?

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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:04 pm

It's any car registered before January 1st 1994 isn't it?
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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:14 pm

Sheehy StarletGT wrote:
Fairly sure it's 93 Shane? Have u had a 94 tested on only low idle?

Its pre 94 so it's before January 1st 1994
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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:22 pm

Matt_ep80 wrote:
Im talking about my project starlet now bimotoman it was a 1 litre 1991 from factory it is now a 1.5 5e would it still be exempt from high idle because its pre 93

only low idle emissions on that my glowbadge with tdo5 and bigger injectors passed low idle Smile
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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:29 pm

Lads, old school emissions apply to vehicles registered before 1 Jan 1993,
same rule apply to change of ownership due to brown book,
that needs to b presented in person at local tax office.

From 1 jan 1993 there was no 1L starlets available from Toyota, due to new emission rules.
Hence 2ee was introduced as standart.
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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:07 am

It's pre 94 as foggy said
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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:37 am

this is what nct says counts till the last day of 1993 cheers

For vehicles first registered on or after 1st day of October
1986, up to 3 1st December 1993, the hydrocarbon
content at idling speed is more than 750 ppm
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PostSubject: Re: failed nct on emmisions which is wrong   Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:00 am

My starlet GT is 92 lol lol lol
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